What is tolerance?

Tolerance is showing love and compassion towards those who you disagree with. NOT accepting the behavior or beliefs of those people. There is a HUGE difference. In today’s society the opposition to Prop 8 is claiming Prop 8 supporters are intolerant because we will not endorse their behavior.

Who is really being intolerant on this issue? Check out this video and decide: Prop 8 Tolerance on UTube


Legalizing same-sex marriage in California WILL affect public schools. It already is.

Here is an article I mentioned in a previous post that reports on a field trip a first grade class took last week (Friday, Oct 10th) to their lesbian teacher’s wedding.

I actually found one of the most interesting things on the website to be the comments from readers. Here are a few of my favorites:

After viewing the endless list of outrageous comments from opponents of prop 8 describing proponents as being intolerant and hateful (“prop hate supporters”) this reader stated:

10/11/2008 6:40:21 AM

So would everyone be as happy about this story if the children were attending a public event like a Church service or a political event like a Yes on Prop 8 rally? It’s funny how everyone is supposed to be tolerant…unless it comes to being tolerant of those with a Judeo-Christian belief or a traditional family lifestyle. I must ask where are we going and why do I feel like we’re all in this big handbasket?

I agree. Tolerance goes both ways. But the other side is just so fiercely angry and hostile. We don’t force prayer and God in schools, how is teaching about gay marriage any different when it goes against the religious beliefs of most Americans? Again, doesn’t this need to go both ways?

Here is an intriguing comment on the article from a gay marriage supporter:

10/11/2008 6:54:11 AM

Really? Do you guys understand statewide politics? This is exactly what scares undecided voters and parents, who otherwise might be with you. I can’t believe this occurred with school kids, first graders even and the rose petals, how stupid are you guys, all of you? (And why is Gavin still doing weddings, do you not have a strong political aide?) The norms established by mainstream media in Bay Area are not indicative of the rest of your state. 24 days out and this school fieldtrip probably just cost the election. don’t open school kids to this issue its a loser for gay marriage advocates. Arrogance is all I can chalk this up to, and get ready to sit around the day after the election and ask who handed this moment to Yes on 8…because they will shove this down the throat of anyone who will listen the next three weeks, you self-sabotaging, idiots. you guys are idiots….and yes I know something about statewide politics, you’d be surprised, socal and central valley are different.

Even the no on prop 8 commenters know what a disaster this is for their campaign. Why? because they know that the majority of Californians don’t want the gay agenda pushed on their children in public schools. If we don’t pass prop 8, public schools will be affected. This is proof and they know it.

And one last comment from a reader (who doesn’t know that gay couples already receive all of the benefits of married couples):

10/15/2008 8:03:47 AM

The answer to the question is something at least the liberal will not like. Grant civil unions or whatever wording you want to gay couples that allow them to receive the benefits of married people. It saves face for everyone and is a win win compromise. But people like Buzz have to have the wording exactly the same, getting the rights are not enough, liberals have to make sure to take as many strikes against one religion, Christianity, that they can. Most Christians could really care less unless the issue is pushed, like here in California, then it becomes a rally point for folks of the religion. Be happy if you are gay and live in this country, because countries like Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia do not recognize the concept of a gay couple, they just stone them to death or hang them. This issue is down to pneumonics, but giving someone the equality they want without using the word marriage is not enough. That will make this issue fail

As you’ve heard lots of times before, Proposition 8 is NOT an attack on gays and lesbians or their lifestyle. It is a defense to protect marriage. Most people don’t care what the gay community does in their private lives. Most people just don’t want that lifestyle forced upon them–and attacking marriage is crossing that line.

All 4 Presidential and VP Candidates support Prop 8 and Traditional Marriage

During the VP Presidential debate, Americans learned that all 4 candidates support Proposition 8 and Traditional Marriage. Here are portions of the transcript. You can view the transcript in its entirety here.

Sarah: “I will tell Americans straight up that I don’t support defining marriage as anything but between one man and one woman, and I think through nuances we can go round and round about what that actually means. But I’m being as straight up with Americans as I can in my non- support for anything but a traditional definition of marriage.”

IFILL: Let’s try to avoid nuance, Senator. Do you support gay marriage?

BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. We do not support that. That is basically the decision to be able to be able to be left to faiths and people who practice their faiths the determination what you call it.

Here is a sign for your car window to publicize that all 4 candidates support traditional marriage.

More Information to Come

As soon as I get a minute, we will explore the following:

1) What proposition 8 is and its history

2) Effects of legalizing gay marriage already seen in California schools–check out this interesting article:Class Surprises Lesbian Teacher on Wedding Day

3) Effects of legalizing gay marriage in other states–if you’re not convinced that legalizing gay marriage will affect public schools, watch this video to see how it has affected the rights of parents in Massachusetts (where the definition of marriage includes gay marriage).

4) Effects of legalizing gay marriage in other countries

5) What world leaders and organizations have to say

There is so much knowledge to convey regarding this issue! Can’t wait to get started and dialog with readers of the world wide web.